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Death-row inmate in Ga. presses innocence

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Sseven of the nine witnesses who helped convict Troy Davis have recanted their testimony and his attorneys claim another man pulled the trigger.

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Maybe Carter and Tutu could voluteer to take his place on death row. Then the entire world could celebrate execution day.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
illuminoidal

Yeah, those obnoxious guys!

Tutu, what gall he has winning Nobel Peace Prize, the Albert Schweitzer Prize for Humanitarianism, and the Gandhi Peace Prize!

And Carter! Who needs a cabinet-level Department of Energy or Department of Education anyway? That will all sort itself out on its own. But even that asidethe non-profit endowment for human rights he founded and his assertions that Israeli occupation of Palestine is akin to apartheid makes him worthy of death.

(I'm glad the entire world is not like you.)

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:32 PM EDT
Captain Marvelous

but what have they done lately, the slackers!

Now if Rev. Al wants to take his place, I'll even pull the lever.

I can hear Rev Al singing from hear through his megaphone
"Barak the Magic Negro lives in DC, he's black but not authenticly......"

    #1.2 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
    tyler

    Way to be off-topic on your own seed. After checking out your post history and finding a good old-fashioned 'you people' on the first page, why don't you take a week off from posting.

    When you come back, try to not get caught up by the whirlwind coattails of whatever's popular on the Vine at the moment.

    You have a lot to share. Maybe you can write a column about Tutu and Carter when you get back.

    • 4 votes
    #1.3 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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    fugitive247

    Twenty-two inmates have been executed — an average of about one a week — since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in April that lethal injection was constitutional. That decision ended a seven-month de facto moratorium on executions throughout the country.

    None of the other cases have attracted this kind of international attention.

    Besides Carter and Tutu, Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr and Pope Benedict XVI also have urged officials to reconsider. The Rev. Al Sharpton prayed with Davis Saturday night.

    Amnesty International has taken up the cause, helping organize rallies as far away as Paris.

    Please add these tags to your watchlist: Troy-Davis and Troy-Anthony-Davis. Remember to vote up all articles and seeds pertaining to getting justice for this condemned man. Use the contact into found here on Newsvine to make a positive impact. We are all Troy Davis!

    • 9 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
    Wade-296254

    Not knowing all of the evidence behind the trial that put him where he is leads me to believe that certain facts are being omitted to make it appear as he is innocent. I could understand if there was only one eye-witness (but there were many), and I could understand also if this guy had an alibi as to where he was when the shooting took place (but he did not have one).

    Let's get to the next part - the "other" shooter. Does the other shooter even look similar to this guy? Do they know each other? Were they both in the same vicinity at the time of the shooting?

    Yes, some can go on and say this man is innocent, and should be given another chance. My question is, did he give the dead man another chance?

    • 2 votes
    Reply#3 - Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:46 PM EDT
    SteveN-328999

    "My question is, did he give the dead man another chance?"

    How completely irrelevent.

    Either he did or didn't do it. You want to punnish him if he didn't?

    • 4 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
    Greg W. North Carolina

    To answer that question, you'll have to wait for the retrial. He does appear innpocent, but the color of his skin, and the fact that a cop was killed is all Georgia needs for some good ole southern (in)justice!

    • 2 votes
    #3.2 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:11 AM EDT
    Great Greg

    maybe GregW he should be tried in the court where OJ Simpson was.
    What Wade said is true. Let justice take it's course and Sharpton should keep his big nose out of it.

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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    Darkwood

    If there is new evidence it should be considered. There is plenty of time to get it right. After 7 pm tonight it becomes irreversible.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
    JayDee-431687

    Amen!

      #4.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
      Sichuan

      Sounds rational to me.

        #4.2 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
        PO5864

        I am all for the Death Penalty for those that commit heinous crimes and can be found guilty where there is no doubt.

        For those cases where there is even an inkling of doubt, I think we owe it to the person to look at every avenue to substantiate the verdict.

        In this particular case, with so many witnesses recanting their testimony, there exists doubt as to his absolute guilt. He may even be innocent....I don't know what the facts are in this case. However, as long as there is doubt about whether or not he may have done this crime; I don't see how any rational person could be for executing this individual.

        I am sure the relatives of the victim want justice. I am also sure that they would not want to execute a person that may be innocent. If there is doubt, but not enough to overturn a guilty verdict, then maybe a life sentence is in order.

        • 3 votes
        #4.3 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:20 PM EDT
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        Jimbo-427103

        This guy and his lawyers have been unable to convince a jury of his peers - and numerous courts that he is innocent.. Well - I'm not convinced of his innocence either...

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
        Yosho

        The catch is, a jury in a case like this is supposed to be convinced of GUILT, not innocence, "beyond a reasonable doubt" and the assumption is that the full range of witnesses available testify. I personally have little opposition to the death penalty as a concept, but I do expect that the best evidence available be used, even if it's a review with DNA that wasn't available at the time of the original trial or because of witnesses recanting their statements the conviction was based on. If we're going to put public funds into executions, I think it should be mandatory to be sure we're killing the right person. Just one "oops" is too many, given it would be KILLING the wrong person.

        Of particular concern to me is the article's statement that the Prosecution is dismissive of people who "didn't testify" at the time of the original trial. Was the Prosecution aware of the potential testimony from these people, or was their offered testimony hidden or ignored by the prosecution because it would disprove their case? There are WAY too many documented cases of prosecutors hiding evidence that would prove innocent parties not guilty to boost their conviction rate, regardless of the cost to the accused.

        Personally, I think any prosecutor who knowingly and willfully contributes to a wrongful execution should face the death penalty themselves as a murderer. Such prosecutors have acted with malice aforethought in padding their resumees with wrongfully-ended human lives while leaving the real killers in those cases run free to continue endangering the public.

        • 2 votes
        #5.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
        PO5864

        A jury bases it's decision on the evidence. If the majority of the witnesses recant their testimony, doesn't that mean the jury based it decision on flawed information?

        • 3 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:22 PM EDT
        rdixiesunrise61

        I am sure the jury came up with their verdict with the information that they had at the time. So whatever the jury heard led them to believe that this guy was guilty. They did the right thing. If there were so many witnesses why didn't someone step in and help the police officer? I mean come on 9 witnesses all saying the same thing?

          #5.3 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:18 AM EDT
          jbdaad

          Sseven of the nine witnesses who helped convict Troy Davis have recanted their testimony and his attorneys claim another man pulled the trigger.

          Talk about selective reading. sheesh!

            #5.4 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:52 AM EDT
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            john-419535

            Well to say he is innocent is a bit of a stretch but i think that his execution should be delayed until we are sure he is guilty. If he is innocent it is an injustice both to him and the police officer that was killed.

            • 8 votes
            Reply#6 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
            Jen-547126

            I first heard of this in an article title The Lights Have Never Been on in Georgia posted on thecitizensjournal.com it sounded like it definitely warranted looking into. I'm glad this situation is no longer being ignored by the national news.

              Reply#7 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
              throapy-547196

              Nobody says that this dirtbag was not there. If he was present and invovled it doesn't matter he if pulled the trigger or one of his buddied. Everyone involved should have been on death row with him. KILL A COP AND DIE! It's that simple.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#8 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
              JJ7

              You mean kill another human being and die, right? Everybody keeps mentioning the whole cop thing, like the victim is more important because he is a police officer. A cold-blooded murderer deserves death whether the victim is a politician, police officer, doctor, janitor, or ex-con. Whoever murdered the officer deserves a lethal injection, but supposedly many of the witnesses recanted their testimony about Davis. It's cases like these that back my belief that the death sentence should only be used if there is DNA evidence.

              • 2 votes
              #8.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
              SteveN-328999

              Nobody said you weren't there either...

              • 1 vote
              #8.2 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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              notbornyesterday-359530

              He killed a cop--he was found guilty--he needs to pay for his crime. Period! What is this "garbage" about "technicalities" in trying to stop his execution. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life."

                Reply#9 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
                illuminoidal

                He wouldn't be the first person to have been found innocent of a crime he was convicted of. After the execution, there's no going back. It's a good idea to be 110% sure. He's not going anywhere.

                PS That eye for an eye bit is so, y'know, Old Testament wrath of God. An eye for an eye and we all go blind.

                • 5 votes
                #9.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
                Sichuan

                notbornyesterday-359530 states: "He killed a cop--he was found guilty--he needs to pay for his crime. Period! What is this "garbage" about "technicalities" in trying to stop his execution. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life."

                And how many innocent people have been convicted for crimes they did not commit? He may be guilty, but then again, he may not. A little more time is not going to hurt anyone.

                • 1 vote
                #9.2 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
                Yosho

                The Old Teatament in the Bible also promotes slavery, polygamy, and "dashing" the heads of enemies babies in the streets, to name a few things that aren't followed. Would we be even more civilized if we adopted these in addition to your acceptance of "an eye for an eye?"

                I continue to find it interesting how many "Christians" are in favor of the death penalty, given the incidents of people wrongly executed in this country and the fact that their Messiah was executed while having committed no crime against the state in power at the time.

                • 1 vote
                #9.3 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:18 PM EDT
                Sichuan

                Most people who advocate the death penalty would probably change their minds if they had to personally witness an execution.

                  #9.4 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:23 PM EDT
                  Horrified

                  I am a Christian, and I am completely against the death penalty.

                    #9.5 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:11 AM EDT
                    A chicken in every pot!

                    Most people who advocate the death penalty would probably change their minds if they had to personally witness an execution

                    Most people who abhor the death penalty would probably change THEIR mind if they witnessed their family member being murdered!

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.6 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:37 AM EDT
                    Yosho

                    Chicken, you got exactly why I said I'm not against the concept. I'm ready to admit that I'd want to pull the switch or whatever myself in that situation. The thing is, whether I had "witnessed" it or not, I would want to make sure the right person was executed based on the best, most accurate evidence. I would not want the wrong person executed, period. If the majority of witnesses in this case are recanting their testimony then the guy was convicted based on false pretenses and whatever the excuse we're to be offered it was wrong.

                    And Horrified, that's why I said "so many" intead of "all" or even "most."

                      #9.7 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:38 AM EDT
                      Reply
                      Bill McMenimen

                      This story should have included the process of the stay by the Supreme Court. Since the court is not in session until the first Mondayin October, was the entire court polled? If so, was the stay 9-0 or 5-4? Was it an individual justice who granted the stay and, if so, who was it? This was a most important part of this story (since the Supreme Court was the end of the line) that was missing.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#10 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
                      jameseg

                      There seems to be substantial indication that Davis is innocent of this crime. Amnesty International's web site, an op-ed column in the New York Times by columnist Bob Herbert on September 19, and several articles seeded or posted on Newsvine.com provide basic information on the case.
                      Personally, I am opposed to capital punishment, but in cases like this where there is a good indication of innocence, it is especially terrible.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#11 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
                      jameseg

                      A clarification: the Bob Herbert NYT column/article appeared online September 19 and in print September 20 according to the NYT website.

                        #11.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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                        MZTRUTHBTOLD

                        I AM SO SICK OF THIS DELAY I USED TO LIVE IN SAVANNAH. I'M A BLACK WOMAN AND YES I USED TO WORK WITH THIS MAN'S MOTHER. HE WAS NOTHING BUT A MENACE TO SOCIETY, A THUG, DRUG DEALER, ETC., ,WHO COULD DO NO WRONG IN HIS MOTHER OR SISTER'S EYES. MARK MCPHAIL WAS MY FRIEND A VERY DEAR FRIEND AND I FIND ALL OF THIS APPALLING. THE MAN SHOT MARK IN THE CHEST, AND STOOD OVER HIM AND ASKED HIM IF HE LOVED JESUS AND MARK SAID YES AND THAT PUNK SAID SAY YOUR PRAYERS AND SHOT HIM IN THE FACE. WHY THESE WITNESSES ARE RECANTING THEIR STORY IS BEYOND ME. ALL I KNOW IS GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH, WHAT'S DONE IN THE DARK WILL ALWAYS COME TO LIGHT. I WASN'T A WITNESS BUT THE TALK ABOUT WHAT HE DID WAS ALL OVER SAVANNAH. AND THEN HIS MOTHER HELPED HIM GET OUT OF SAVANNAH BY DRESSING HIM UP AS A WOMAN. GO FIGURE.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#12 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
                        rdixiesunrise61

                        Has his mother been brought up on charges for harboring a fugitive? she should be.

                        Thanks for your side of the story. I hope he gets what he deserves.

                          #12.1 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:23 AM EDT
                          Teodoro Leon 3

                          I would be more inclined to believe that what you related in your "statement' was not slanderous gossip ,if not just an outright lie if you had filled out your Bio,seeded some articles,voted on other articles since the last/only time or at least commented on them.
                          This will be sent to the email you provided that you used to sign on to newsvine.traceable.
                          At least respond by commenting on your comment and stating where you worked with troy's mother...
                          I suspect you are what we newsviners call a troll.
                          As you should now know...troy was granted a stay of execution by no other than the US Supreme Court who were all in recess and convened a special hearing to grant this stay.
                          Do you not know that you will be also held accountable for your maliciousness and lies?The Almighty is well aware of the hate you spout and the time is near.
                          I just pray that you at least make an attempt to make better informed opinions if this the case.
                          Especially you rdixiesunrise61,promoting this type of malfeasance.
                          He was really your friend? Then why do you not want real justice for who killed him?Good friend you are...with friends like you who needs enemies?
                          Please respond...I sent you an email through the "contact author" link,though you are no author.

                          • 2 votes
                          #12.2 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
                          Teodoro Leon 3

                          I would be more inclined to believe that what you related in your "statement' was not slanderous gossip ,if not just an outright lie if you had filled out your Bio,put a avatar,seeded some articles,voted on other articles since the last/only time or at least commented on them since you signed up to newsvine 9/08.
                          This will be sent to the email you provided that you used to sign on to newsvine.traceable.
                          At least respond by commenting on your comment and stating where you worked with troy's mother...
                          I suspect you are what we newsviners call a troll.
                          As you should now know...troy was granted a stay of execution by no other than the US Supreme Court who were all in recess and convened a special hearing to grant this stay.
                          Do you not know that you will be also held accountable for your maliciousness and lies?The Almighty is well aware of the hate you spout and the time is near.
                          I just pray that you at least make an attempt to make better informed opinions if this the case.

                          • 2 votes
                          #12.3 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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                          MZTRUTHBTOLD

                          I USED TO LIVE IN SAVANNAH AND I BEG TO DIFFER, WE ARE NOT TROY DAVIS THAT MAN WAS A MENACE, A BULLY, A THEIF, A DRUG DEALER AND THUG WHO COULD DO NO WRONG IN HIS MOTHER'S EYES. AND YES I AM A BLACK WOMAN AND I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED THIS MESS HAS GONE TOO FAR. MARK MCCPHAIL WAS MY FRIEND, MY BUDDY. TROY DID IT AND WILL ANSWER TO GOD NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE COURTS UPHOLD AND GIVE HIM A STAY. HIS MOTHER HELPED HIM GET OUT OF SAVANNAH AFTER HE KILLED MARK BY DRESSING HIM UP AS A WOMAN. BUT U WON'T SEE THAT ON THE NEWS. YOU ALSO WON'T HEAR HOW THE REST OF SAVANNAH HEARD HOW TROY ASKED MARK AFTER HE SHOT HIM IN THE CHEST IF HE LOVED JESUS AND WHEN MARK SAID YES HE SAID GOOD CAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT TO MEET HIM AND SHOT HIM IN HIS FACE. HIS MOTHER AND SISTER PUT HIM UP ON A PEDESTAL AND HE KNOWS HE WAS WRONG.I WASN'T A WITNESS BUT THAT WAS THE WORD ON THE STREET BACK THEN AND RECANTED BY THE WITNESSESS. RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG, HE WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS. I AM PISSED. I FEEL SORRY FOR HIS FAMILY BUT NOT FOR HIM.

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#13 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
                          Teodoro Leon 3

                          I WASN'T A WITNESS BUT THAT WAS THE WORD ON THE STREET BACK THEN

                          Did you also know Troy?It seems you are relating slanderous gossip...
                          We are all Troy Davis

                          Tell me this is a lie...

                          "Troy was waiting to go into the Marine Corps. He had transferred to night school where he completed his high school education in order to take care of my sister who was paralyzed from the neck down. So he worked during the day and took care of my sister while my mom was working; did her hair, catheterized her, because she couldn't do anything for herself."

                          Were you hoodwinked?

                          • 4 votes
                          #13.1 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
                          nearing

                          MZTRUTHBTOLD,

                          I feel sorry for you that you feel sorry for people who are happily awaiting the death of another human being.

                          Put aside the glaring inconsistencies in the trial and that Troy could very well be an innocent man.

                          Revenge does not bring peace to anyone. If you wish for and work towards the killing of a man your mind is constantly filled with negative thoughts. This is not good for you and not good for those around you.

                          The law of cause and effect will not be on your side if you are a revengeful person.

                          Only compassion and forgiveness can set the family of a murder victim free.

                          • 4 votes
                          #13.2 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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                          Damnit

                          given the history of too many blacks being persecuted, especially in the south, for crimes they never committed, this guy could well be innocent

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#14 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
                          Captain Marvelous

                          and then again, maybe not.

                            #14.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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                            JJ7

                            "and was shot twice when he approached Davis and two other men". Well, the media really doesn't help his situation at all. They forgot to use the word alledgedly. This was in a paragraph all by itself. This paragraph mentions nothing about witnesses. The next paragraph does, but not this particular one. To me, that looks like the person who wrote this article is trying to push their opinion on Davis' guilt. Or possibly this journalist has been told by a higher authority to put little subtle messages in the article, to get public backing. It could work. The public is very easy to manipulate. And the prosecutors? Of course they want to keep the case closed and the execution to proceed. If, and I mean IF, Davis is innocent, the DA's would much rather see him executed anyway than for them to look bad.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#15 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
                            Stranger2

                            Bingo, JJ7 -

                            "And the prosecutors? Of course they want to keep the case closed and the execution to proceed. If, and I mean IF, Davis is innocent, the DA's would much rather see him executed anyway than for them to look bad."

                            That's my problem with this situation. I don't know if this guy is guilty or innocent of this crime, but it seems like the truth, if it happens to differ from the jury's verdict, doesn't matter to the prosecutors. It's like this - if we managed to convince a jury to find him guilty, then justice has been done and any new information is totally irrelevant - as if a trial is a kind of a game, we won, so there should be no instant replay. Or maybe their thinking is that he's a bad actor and even if he didn't do this crime, he did some other crime and deserves what he gets regardless. There are so many other possible factors that the jury would never have seen - like, these witnesses - did the prosecution barter for their testimony? Are they all just a bunch of equivalent scumbags who got a free pass in exchange for testifying against the defendant?

                            And think about it, you people who are so rabid to have him, and others like him, killed - if he wasn't about to be executed, nobody would care. Desmond Tutu and Jimmy Carter and Pope Benedict the XVI - none of them would lift a finger to suggest he might be innocent. He would almost certainly spend the rest of his life right where he is - in prison.

                            We as a society shouldn't be killing anyone. We can't get even, no matter how many murderers we murder. 160 years ago, virtually all of the civilized world had banned human slavery, but not the good ol' US of A. And now, in the 21st century, virtually all of the civilized world has banned capital punishment - but not the good ol' US of A. The time has come to do away with this hallmark of totalitarianism, religious fanaticism, racist attitudes and of right wing, chest-thumping, redneck hatred and vengeance. I'm surprised the rabid advocates of capital punishment don't come right out and insist that the executions be public, too, so that everyone could get the maximum enjoyment out of it.

                            • 1 vote
                            #15.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
                            Yosho

                            Actually, that might not be such a bad idea, making executions viewable by the public. Just make sure it's not the lethal injections, not dramatic enough.

                            Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting this out of any kind of sadism. A few death-penalty proponents are honest and say it's for vengeance. Most try to candy-coat their bloodlust by saying it's a "deterrent." The latter are the ones I'm addressing here.

                            An effective "deterrent" would have a huge impact lowering the murder rate in this country. There is no such lowering. Maybe the moment of pause needed to stop someone thinking of murder would be there if they knew exactly what awaited them in an electric chair if they got caught. The more calm, abstract concept of lethal injections most can never see doesn't have as much psychological impact in comparison, so isn't anywhere near the deterrent.

                            Of course, this might also cause some pause in the long run for those in favor of the death penalty. Imagine being someone who cheered while a convict was executed on TV only to find out later someone else confessed to the crime. Would you still feel like cheering?

                              #15.2 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:07 PM EDT
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                              spike-322306

                              "...If, and I mean IF, Davis is innocent..."

                              No one is ever found "innocent" of any crime. They may not be guilty, but they are not innocent.

                              A BIG difference!

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#16 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
                              Sichuan

                              You are correct, and that is an injustice. A person should be found guilty or innocent. This would prevent prosecutors from stating to the press "yes, he or she was found not guilty but that does not mean he or she is innocent" every time they lose a case or have a conviction reversed.

                              I really don't give a damn if the verdict is not guilty. In my yes not guilty means innocent, like it or not.

                                #16.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:22 PM EDT
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                                Ginny F

                                It's cases like these that back my belief that the death sentence should only be used if there is DNA evidence.

                                I agree. The death penalty should only be given IF there is DNA, forensics, a smoking gun, that proves guilt. As I understand from the little I heard about this case, there were none. Eyewitness alone does not get it IMHO.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#17 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
                                SteveN-328999

                                You know this is what really, REALLY pisses me off!
                                Seven of nine of the witnesses say they were wrong and these A-holes still want to do the execution!

                                This is NOT America.

                                  Reply#18 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
                                  man from uncle

                                  NO, this is Georgia! An inconvenience such as innocence can be overlooked. Mztruthbetold, if I were being falsely accused on the street, I might dress up like a man to try to "get out of Dodge". "I heard" isn't good enough. If he is found to be truly innocent, I hope all who continue to say "execute him" will sit back and examine themselves. Are you the same ones who think children should be forced to recite that fairy tale that includes the phrase "liberty and justice for all"?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #18.1 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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                                  toastee

                                  so dna is the only thing that can convict and many eyewitnesses should be discounted? Does this mean we can all go convict OJ for the killings.. oh thats right he put the gloves during the trial...so there goes that way of convicting.

                                  I am for DNA as well in cases, but please don't say it's the only way we can convict criminals from now on, if you dont touch the gun with a hand then you cant get your dna on it.. so by your logic if a man never touches a pristine gun with an ungloved hand and shoots you square in the chest and twenty people witness it...then that man is innocent right? cause witnesses should all be discounted. Not saying that it is a perfect system, but all methods should be included.. dna AND WITNESSES etc etc etc...

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#19 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
                                  Horrified

                                  They aren't saying a person should have dna/smoking gun evidence to be CONVICTED and put in jail, only to get the death penalty.

                                    #19.1 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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                                    jbdaad

                                    Sseven of the nine witnesses who helped convict Troy Davis have recanted their testimony and his attorneys claim another man pulled the trigger.

                                    This should cast more than a shadow of a doubt. I am convinced that this deserves to be looked into. What this country should be proud of. The Supreme Court looked it over and found the original Kangaroo Court lacking.

                                      Reply#20 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
                                      Gus-387868

                                      How does someone like Desmond Tutu have any influence or sway with the US Supreme Court?

                                        Reply#21 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
                                        gary-334990

                                        execute him, be done with it, should have been done 19 years ago.

                                          Reply#22 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
                                          GR-007

                                          DOES IT TELLS AMERICANS SOMETHING? DO WE HAVE A JUDICIAL SYSTEM TO THE MEASURE OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM? THAT'S WHY I WILL NEVER BE A JUROR AND AS LONG AS OJ WALKS.
                                          STUPID JURORS PROTECTS "DRUNK JUDGES", AND I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FROM THE BEST SOURCE. SHOW ME A JUROR WHO DOESN'T WANT TO WRITE A BOOK FOR $$$ AND I WILL SHOW YOU A OK, NOT GOOD, AN OK JUROR.

                                            Reply#23 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
                                            Michael A Sanders

                                            I hope that those of you calling for swift justice receive the same consideration if you are ever falsely accused. A prosecutor who insists on the accuracy of a jury verdict, in spite of testimony to the contrary has become a cliche and a joke in our society. Just one more reason among many that we are the laughingstock of the world. Everybody has an opinion. But, unless you have actually reviewed the testimony and evidence for yourself, your opinion has less credibility than a Michael Jackson soundbite on the innocence of OJ Simpson. I can hardly wait for your forthcoming, ingenious response to my comment.

                                              Reply#24 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
                                              Jim Mahoney

                                              Another shining example of the great American justice system at work. Maybe we should come up with some kind of award for prosecutors, like they do with the Cy young award in baseball, since alot of em are more concerned with the victory than the truth. I speak from personal experience in that my brother in law was murdered and A person tried for the crime. Murder one was what we were told repeatedly, yet while sitting thru the trial day after day we came to realize that that was bull----. The das in this country are a complete joke in their so called search for the truth in alot of cases. As long as they get to chalk up the W all is well, the hell with the truth. Makes me sick to think of the sh-- that the victims families go thru due to the actions of these so called protectors of justice. Maybe they should should all try and stop being heroes and looking grand with their glossy records for trying cases and be more concerned with finding out what really happened during the commencement of a crime so that these kind of things stop popping up all the time. My thoughts are with the police officers family as they will undoubtedly be forced to endure another bout of having to relive this tragic situation as the prosecutors now cover their butts to say they were 100% sure they had the right person

                                                Reply#25 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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